1 00:00:05,250 --> 00:00:09,570 Previously on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. I flew in a special 2 00:00:09,870 --> 00:00:10,870 He's a psychic. 3 00:00:11,210 --> 00:00:13,430 My mom just had a big surgery in December. 4 00:00:14,170 --> 00:00:16,110 She's your biggest supporter. 5 00:00:16,410 --> 00:00:18,070 And it doesn't always seem that way. 6 00:00:18,490 --> 00:00:19,890 Make peace with that relationship. 7 00:00:20,390 --> 00:00:22,010 Who's the water slime? My husband. 8 00:00:22,370 --> 00:00:24,810 Why do you feel like you're just rebuilding trust? 9 00:00:25,390 --> 00:00:26,390 I don't know. 10 00:00:26,670 --> 00:00:31,070 You need to figure out how to communicate to each other again. But 11 00:00:31,070 --> 00:00:32,729 the same team. We're not. 12 00:00:33,340 --> 00:00:38,980 When you and I were not in a great place, Lisa was encouraging me to dig up 13 00:00:38,980 --> 00:00:42,000 information about family members and relatives of yours. 14 00:00:42,460 --> 00:00:44,980 I did not say anything about you to Angie. 15 00:00:45,220 --> 00:00:45,939 You're a liar. 16 00:00:45,940 --> 00:00:47,980 You have the thinnest skin and I'm done. 17 00:00:48,220 --> 00:00:51,340 You're stronger than this. I am stronger. Yeah, you are. You are. 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:57,520 What did you just say to me? You've all gone back there. I've gone back? Yeah. 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,580 I'm done with you. No. Bye, Mary. 20 00:00:59,780 --> 00:01:00,780 Oh, God. 21 00:01:50,860 --> 00:01:52,360 on my lips. How are you? 22 00:01:52,860 --> 00:01:55,500 That's what I was calling to ask you. How are you doing, babe? 23 00:01:55,860 --> 00:01:57,140 I don't even know what to say. 24 00:01:57,420 --> 00:01:58,420 Well, what about Mary? 25 00:01:58,460 --> 00:01:59,640 What's going on with Mary? 26 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:05,060 I sent her a message and asked her if she could stop by. I just hope that she 27 00:02:05,060 --> 00:02:09,699 can remember what she loves about me and I don't want to hurt her. 28 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:14,520 She's very sensitive. And I'm ready for, like, something that might be a hard 29 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,120 conversation, you know what I mean? I mean, I was at one point closer with 30 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,080 than I am with Mary. Now it's like I know where things are with Lisa, but I 31 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,060 where things are with Mary, you know? Who would have thought? 32 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Not me. 33 00:02:28,220 --> 00:02:33,900 You know, with Lisa, I just feel like I've wasted time and shown a side of 34 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:36,940 myself that I don't want to see and nobody else wants to see, you know what 35 00:02:36,940 --> 00:02:38,480 mean? It made me feel... 36 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:44,300 guilty it made me you know go back in time on um things that i said or did and 37 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:49,160 to know that like lisa can hurt us and never cry about it she's too busy crying 38 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:55,360 about how she looks and what people think but for me i leave there feeling a 39 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,360 of guilt for the fact that i could have handled things different or better yeah 40 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,600 i felt protective of every one of us that day it wasn't just about me it was 41 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:08,300 about reoccurring takedowns i don't need her to be perfect or be good but i need 42 00:03:08,350 --> 00:03:13,590 her to listen to me and to just acknowledge something so that I know 43 00:03:13,590 --> 00:03:14,710 you know, a two -way street. 44 00:03:15,090 --> 00:03:16,590 But do you think she gets that? 45 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:20,330 I think if anyone's going to help her change, it's going to be us. You know 46 00:03:20,330 --> 00:03:25,290 I mean? Like, we know her, we love her, and we've been through it with her, you 47 00:03:25,290 --> 00:03:26,710 know? So we're already halfway there. 48 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:29,130 I appreciate that Angie's taking accountability. 49 00:03:29,550 --> 00:03:35,650 In my heart of hearts, I believe that Lisa is capable of admitting fault as 50 00:03:35,650 --> 00:03:38,570 well. I just don't think I've ever seen her do it. 51 00:03:38,970 --> 00:03:44,710 But, like, I was sad that Lisa left lunch early, you know, and she wasn't 52 00:03:44,710 --> 00:03:45,910 for when I announced the trip. 53 00:03:46,170 --> 00:03:51,170 I have spoken with Captain Jason and arranged to charter his super yacht in 54 00:03:51,170 --> 00:03:52,990 Canawon. What? 55 00:03:53,490 --> 00:03:57,710 Yes. We're going to the islands, St. Vincent and the Grenadines. We are going 56 00:03:57,710 --> 00:03:59,950 super yacht it, and I would hope that you're all... 57 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:04,460 I mean, I told her about the trip. I told her that all eight of us were 58 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,800 I have hope that it'll bring bonding and fun. 59 00:04:07,060 --> 00:04:11,580 I mean, if we cannot enjoy ourselves on a super yacht, we are some sad bitches. 60 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:20,500 It's a little tight, huh? 61 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:21,299 Mm -hmm. 62 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:22,740 Can you get out? Oh, please. 63 00:04:32,010 --> 00:04:34,310 Oh, this kid has sprinkles. That makes me want sprinkles. 64 00:04:35,230 --> 00:04:36,610 Hi, welcome in. Hi. 65 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:38,190 Do you want to see what they have? 66 00:04:38,430 --> 00:04:39,430 I saw, I looked. 67 00:04:39,530 --> 00:04:40,489 What can I get for you? 68 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:42,650 I want a sundae. Okay. For sure. 69 00:04:43,230 --> 00:04:45,030 And then, do you know what kind you want? 70 00:04:45,470 --> 00:04:47,770 Yeah, I want raspberry cookie swirl. 71 00:04:50,770 --> 00:04:51,770 Thank you. Okay. 72 00:04:53,850 --> 00:04:55,450 I got myself a cold sundae. 73 00:04:56,210 --> 00:05:00,030 Um, I only got the strings because it has maraschino cherries in it. 74 00:05:00,620 --> 00:05:04,020 You know, I get so mad when I have like a dessert and you take the cherry off 75 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:06,080 the top. I always save it to the end. It's my favorite part. 76 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,740 How was New York? 77 00:05:11,700 --> 00:05:12,539 Really good. 78 00:05:12,540 --> 00:05:13,560 And you saw your mom and dad? 79 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,480 They're good. 80 00:05:20,840 --> 00:05:25,420 We talked about that 30 seconds ago that I can't stand when you eat the only 81 00:05:25,420 --> 00:05:26,420 cherry. 82 00:05:31,790 --> 00:05:32,790 Did I save it for the end? 83 00:05:33,570 --> 00:05:36,190 You absolute asshole. 84 00:05:36,470 --> 00:05:37,530 Oh, my gosh. 85 00:05:38,150 --> 00:05:39,690 Did I send you the selfie I took yesterday? 86 00:05:40,490 --> 00:05:41,630 In my outfit for Whitney's? 87 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:43,710 No. You would be so proud of me. 88 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:45,210 Why? 89 00:05:45,490 --> 00:05:47,230 I don't think I raised my voice one time. 90 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:49,510 That's good. I wasn't in any of the chaos. 91 00:05:51,110 --> 00:05:54,950 I'm always excited to see, like... Where it goes with Lisa, right? And she came 92 00:05:54,950 --> 00:05:59,270 in and we were fine. In fact, she and Angie caught crazy arguing with each 93 00:05:59,270 --> 00:06:01,130 other. Angie was making valid points. 94 00:06:01,450 --> 00:06:06,450 Lisa does dig stuff on us. She does twist things people tell her. She does, 95 00:06:06,450 --> 00:06:09,590 like, do this threatening, don't start with me or I'll ruin you. 96 00:06:09,790 --> 00:06:13,730 But I heard Angie say at one point, I'm not going to be bullied by this. Like, 97 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:15,970 I'm going to stand up for myself. I know you don't care about the details. 98 00:06:16,190 --> 00:06:17,190 At all. What are you? 99 00:06:17,230 --> 00:06:19,830 Do I get a high five? Do I get a something for not being in the chaos? 100 00:06:20,190 --> 00:06:22,470 Well, congratulations and thank you is what you get. 101 00:06:22,790 --> 00:06:27,830 Look, Todd is over this group of women. In his mind, I can't keep showing up at 102 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:31,430 the circus and being shocked by the clownery. And I did have this moment of, 103 00:06:31,430 --> 00:06:33,150 like, wobble. 104 00:06:34,130 --> 00:06:37,310 When Lisa and I talked last week, I was really quick to just be like, I don't 105 00:06:37,310 --> 00:06:38,309 want to do this anymore. 106 00:06:38,310 --> 00:06:39,530 We could ruin each other. 107 00:06:39,850 --> 00:06:41,370 And I stand by that. 108 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:46,610 But you don't think I was too quick to, like, neutralize with Lisa, right? 109 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Todd knows me better than most people, so it is always shocking to me that he 110 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,160 doesn't know why I'm still trying to be friends with these women. I accepted 111 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:02,000 Lisa's apology, and an apology is the kickoff to paving a new way forward. 112 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Todd doesn't need to agree for that opinion of mine to be valid. 113 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:08,440 Oh, this is the best part. 114 00:07:08,660 --> 00:07:10,420 Whitney had a psychic come out from New York. 115 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:12,780 What did he tell you? 116 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,500 Well, he started with my mom first. And he was like, this time, this is as 117 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:17,600 recovered as she's going to get. 118 00:07:17,860 --> 00:07:18,860 Is that his medical opinion? 119 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:20,660 Okay. 120 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,460 I don't believe any of this. 121 00:07:23,580 --> 00:07:24,780 I think it's all craziness. 122 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:28,320 Okay, do you feel like you could suspend your bullshit meter for like a second? 123 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:34,120 It really felt like a warning. He kind of said, it's time to like move past 124 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,120 with your mom. 125 00:07:38,060 --> 00:07:39,980 Look, it's probably a 50 -50 guess. 126 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,040 You're really bumming me out. I'm trying to tell you something I really enjoyed. 127 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:47,879 Thank you. 128 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,600 I'm sitting here trying, like, I'm going to get upset. 129 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,320 I'm sitting here trying to have ice cream with you. I'm trying to tell you 130 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,320 something that looks funny. 131 00:07:56,420 --> 00:07:59,460 You know how I feel about when people misunderstand me. I shouldn't have to 132 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:02,100 misunderstood with you, too. Like, I shouldn't have to thank you to think 133 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:03,100 is interesting. 134 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,100 I'm very accepting that Todd is... 135 00:08:08,350 --> 00:08:12,950 less emotional than i am and i would love to feel the acceptance when i'm 136 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:19,290 emotional than he is i'd love to get to a point where like i don't have to get 137 00:08:19,290 --> 00:08:26,030 this upset for him to notice it but it's a process i'm not telling you he gave 138 00:08:26,030 --> 00:08:29,310 me numbers and i converted our life savings into a lottery ticket i'm 139 00:08:29,310 --> 00:08:32,610 you if it touched something in me then it's worthwhile it's an awesome thing to 140 00:08:32,610 --> 00:08:33,950 do i'm sorry 141 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:41,159 Coming up. You get so caught up. You've lost out on me. 142 00:08:41,419 --> 00:08:42,679 As if I was your enemy. 143 00:08:43,620 --> 00:08:46,660 You're supposed to be my sister, okay? But you're not. I am your sister. You 144 00:08:46,660 --> 00:08:47,980 know you're not. Find another one, okay? 145 00:08:58,820 --> 00:09:00,820 Hey, John, will you grab me a suitcase? 146 00:09:02,980 --> 00:09:03,980 Or two? 147 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,800 Are you sure you can take two? 148 00:09:08,540 --> 00:09:10,500 Oh, my gosh. I don't even know how I'm going to fit everything. 149 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Remember when we went on our yacht trip and I had nine? 150 00:09:15,140 --> 00:09:17,700 Yeah. And I was like, oh, my gosh. 151 00:09:18,020 --> 00:09:19,320 Overkill. Overkill. 152 00:09:19,540 --> 00:09:20,840 Where are you guys going again? 153 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Canawan. So I think it's like by the Galapagos Islands. 154 00:09:28,980 --> 00:09:32,500 There's nothing better than when you get on a boat and it's like, oh, I'm just 155 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:34,820 thinking about a pina colada and then one appears. 156 00:09:35,470 --> 00:09:37,730 Like, it's the best thing ever. 157 00:09:38,070 --> 00:09:41,110 So I'm sure this will be a really fun girls' trip, even though it's only, 158 00:09:41,130 --> 00:09:43,010 three days and I'm used to going seven to ten. 159 00:09:43,610 --> 00:09:46,690 But I really wish I had some say on the guest list. 160 00:09:46,990 --> 00:09:48,150 It would be very different. 161 00:09:49,710 --> 00:09:56,470 I forgot to tell you, I, like, talked to a psychic at Whitney's party. 162 00:09:57,030 --> 00:10:00,430 Okay. He brought up us and he's like, do you feel like you guys are having 163 00:10:00,430 --> 00:10:02,290 communication problems right now? 164 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:04,570 You know? 165 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,620 Maybe what he was picking up on. I mean, it like really resonated when he said, 166 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,260 do you guys are having communication problems? Like you're not on the same 167 00:10:13,260 --> 00:10:14,260 with things. 168 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:18,500 Well, so what did you, how'd you feel when he was telling you that? 169 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:28,080 Um, you know, there's a part of me that's like, yeah, it's true. 170 00:10:33,070 --> 00:10:38,290 There's not a specific catalyst for this. Like, it's been going on since we 171 00:10:38,290 --> 00:10:43,110 married. And it's because there's blurred lines between business, family, 172 00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:49,410 marriage. Like, I manage the entire house, plus I work. I feel like we're on 173 00:10:49,410 --> 00:10:50,410 different pages. 174 00:10:51,230 --> 00:10:55,910 Sometimes I just think that I'm taken for granted, like, where it's normal. 175 00:10:56,130 --> 00:10:58,290 But, like, I'm exhausted sometimes. 176 00:10:59,510 --> 00:11:01,870 Like, I'm, like, exhausted sometimes. 177 00:11:02,590 --> 00:11:07,030 Those are the moments when I'll go and sit in my car and cry to my dad and just 178 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:08,570 be like, I'm just having a tough day. 179 00:11:08,850 --> 00:11:13,550 Those are the conversations I have with my dad, you know, and not John. 180 00:11:16,650 --> 00:11:22,730 We aren't on the same page because I don't think you want to hear what I have 181 00:11:22,730 --> 00:11:25,110 say because you're already in your head thinking that you're right. 182 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:34,270 When the other day you said to me, Hey, you could listen to me just to show me 183 00:11:34,270 --> 00:11:35,270 that what I say matters. 184 00:11:37,150 --> 00:11:41,590 It's like, I think that there's some truth to what you said, but I don't 185 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:42,590 it's just me. 186 00:11:43,950 --> 00:11:46,930 Like I say certain things and then it's just like checked out. 187 00:11:47,290 --> 00:11:49,810 You know, it's not, it's just one sided. 188 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:53,630 So is that a me thing or you thing or? No, it's a thing thing. 189 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:54,930 Okay. I don't know. 190 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,840 I don't feel like things I need are always heard. Like I tell John all the 191 00:12:01,900 --> 00:12:02,980 treat me like glass. 192 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,740 I know I'm like, I can be a bulldog, but my feelings can get hurt. And like, 193 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,400 you can shatter me. 194 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,920 And I think that's like where I feel like I get missed. 195 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:21,440 And I think that's when you're on different pages. And I think that 196 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,440 me. 197 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:25,220 We've been together a long time. 198 00:12:25,980 --> 00:12:27,140 And nothing's perfect. 199 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,820 Whatever you do is perfect. 200 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Just me. 201 00:12:58,800 --> 00:12:59,800 Oh, my gosh. 202 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:09,960 Hi, Mary. 203 00:13:10,020 --> 00:13:11,020 Hi. 204 00:13:11,300 --> 00:13:14,600 Decided to open the door for me this time. Open the door. I have to let 205 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,320 in because I'm too busy to get the door. Thank you for getting the door. Yeah. I 206 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,660 brought you your favorite drink. They didn't have the ones with no sugar. 207 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:23,220 like seven cups of sugar. 208 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,240 Don't drink that even for yourself. 209 00:13:25,580 --> 00:13:26,920 Okay. You look nice. 210 00:13:27,580 --> 00:13:28,580 Thank you. 211 00:13:28,590 --> 00:13:32,730 See you soon. Thank you. Come in. Have a seat. Do you want a water? Nope. I'm 212 00:13:32,730 --> 00:13:33,730 good. Hey. 213 00:13:34,130 --> 00:13:35,950 I just can't not offer you food. 214 00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:40,070 Well, I stopped by to talk because it didn't end good. Okay. 215 00:13:42,650 --> 00:13:44,590 The snack's gone. 216 00:13:46,050 --> 00:13:49,770 I feel like I'm in the principal's office, and I know what that feels like 217 00:13:49,770 --> 00:13:54,750 because I was a regular, but this time I'm actually feeling a little bit 218 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,320 I'm going to start with I'm sorry. 219 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,280 I know that you wanted to calm me down. I know you were trying to help me. 220 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,640 It's hard for me to allow someone to bully me and not respond. 221 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:16,740 This is a bully on the playground that you're becoming. 222 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,360 But Mary, I'm responding. I'm not bullying her. I'm responding. 223 00:14:23,500 --> 00:14:25,100 Yeah, but you get so angry. 224 00:14:25,740 --> 00:14:29,740 That you can't even focus and you don't even hear people. We're in a sisterhood 225 00:14:29,740 --> 00:14:31,740 and I can't even get you to calm down? 226 00:14:32,140 --> 00:14:33,400 Then what am I there for? 227 00:14:34,220 --> 00:14:38,600 How are you allowing someone to get you that mad to the point it's affecting our 228 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,460 friendship? That's where the problem is. 229 00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:44,400 You get so caught up into something that's so not important. 230 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,940 I don't even exist. 231 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:50,700 And then I'm like, Angie, Angie, you're... You launched out at me. 232 00:14:50,940 --> 00:14:54,840 I was frustrated with the whole table. You're supposed to be my sister, okay? 233 00:14:54,940 --> 00:14:57,520 But you're not. I am your sister. You know you're not. Find another one, okay? 234 00:15:07,690 --> 00:15:10,510 You're supposed to be my sister, okay, but you're not. I am your sister. You 235 00:15:10,510 --> 00:15:11,810 know you're not. Find another one, okay? 236 00:15:14,490 --> 00:15:17,390 I don't want to be on eggshells, and I don't want to feel like you're mad at me 237 00:15:17,390 --> 00:15:20,030 for me being me. But you're different lately. 238 00:15:21,890 --> 00:15:27,010 You know, Angie's, like, patient, kind, sweet. She's easygoing. She's cool. 239 00:15:27,450 --> 00:15:29,350 Lately, she's trying to throw a tantrum. 240 00:15:29,750 --> 00:15:34,470 It's a trigger for me. As a person, you don't evolve by attacking other people. 241 00:15:34,670 --> 00:15:36,030 It's almost like you're going backwards. 242 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:42,280 I feel like she doesn't see herself right now. And that's a darkness that I 243 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:43,280 don't want to be around. 244 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:45,720 You're just in a space that I don't know who you are. 245 00:15:46,860 --> 00:15:48,020 And you're a little bit mean. 246 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,600 Like when you made fun of my fart. 247 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:56,220 You kept making fun of me. 248 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,440 Cheers. Thanks for coming. 249 00:16:03,660 --> 00:16:04,519 Oh, cheers. 250 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,040 Well, cheers on the couch, too. 251 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,140 I don't know why I'm farting. 252 00:16:09,340 --> 00:16:10,980 Maybe you should sit over there. 253 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,800 If you've got gas, I'm just going to face myself. Can I put this here? Okay. 254 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:17,800 I got gas. 255 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,040 At least Mary's warning us when she's ripping. 256 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,020 Mary's got gas. What else should we cover today? 257 00:16:24,220 --> 00:16:25,480 You usually smell good. 258 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:27,760 Well, I shouldn't have said anything because you're going to say it a hundred 259 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,840 times. No, I'm done. I'm done. Let's not hear it anymore. We're done with the 260 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:31,840 gas. 261 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,940 First of all, the dog farted. 262 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,240 And then you said, oh, maybe that's Mary. You said, come on, Bronwyn. Oh, we 263 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,560 better sit over here because Mary's got gas. And then your dog farts and smells 264 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,700 the whole house up. And then you blamed it like it was my fart. 265 00:16:45,940 --> 00:16:49,360 I'm like, first of all, I eat healthy. My farts don't come out like that. 266 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:52,820 We should know the fart between my fart and a dog fart. 267 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,300 And then you go, oh, my God, Mary, is that you? 268 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,980 And then both of you, like, okay. I'm like, enough. 269 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,600 I got it. And next I won't tell you when I fart. 270 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:02,920 Okay. Seriously? 271 00:17:03,020 --> 00:17:06,440 I know. If you farted and I smelled, I would never make fun of you. 272 00:17:07,339 --> 00:17:09,460 And you don't even know if I smelled your fart before. 273 00:17:10,579 --> 00:17:13,440 Maybe I have. But I would never talk about it and make fun. 274 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,260 But you didn't smell my fart. I didn't smell your fart. I know. You 275 00:17:17,260 --> 00:17:20,960 that you farted. I said I had gas. And then you said you had gas. I said I had 276 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,740 gas. I was offended by it, okay? 277 00:17:24,389 --> 00:17:28,850 I appreciate you. Give me your hand. We're not ready. We are not there. I'm 278 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:33,730 ready. I don't want to lose you, but you have to understand me too. I pull back 279 00:17:33,730 --> 00:17:37,250 in certain situations when I feel a level of disrespect. 280 00:17:37,610 --> 00:17:41,790 And I feel like you've reached those places with me more than I can handle. 281 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,260 I don't let people in. 282 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,920 I just, I'm built that way. But when I do, you know what you mean to me. You 283 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,840 know I have you on a pedestal. 284 00:17:54,060 --> 00:17:56,400 I want the best for you. I want you to thrive. 285 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,680 I want you to always win. 286 00:18:05,060 --> 00:18:06,300 Sorry, I don't know why I'm crying. 287 00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:11,900 I'm the type when I have love, I have real love. I really, really love you. 288 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:15,200 And when you don't love me back, I can turn around and never look back. 289 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,040 I will unmemorize your existence. 290 00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:21,500 I live my life with a guard up because I have been dogged. 291 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,560 I don't have this often. Like, this comes every 20 years of my life. I get a 292 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,760 friend who I love. I feel secure. I feel like I trust you. I can talk to you. I 293 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,420 can tell you stuff I don't tell people. 294 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,140 I'm acknowledging that you do exist in my heart. You exist in my mind. I 295 00:18:39,140 --> 00:18:43,360 remember what you say. I think of it. I've learned from you. You're my person 296 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:44,700 and I'm yours and you know it. 297 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,380 I didn't come here to cry. I came here to tell you off. 298 00:18:49,900 --> 00:18:53,020 Deep down, I don't think I could live my life on without you. 299 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:54,980 I don't think I could. 300 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:56,960 Thank you. 301 00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:59,040 But you got to get together. 302 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,520 I know that. 303 00:19:01,700 --> 00:19:05,000 I love you deeply, and I will work on myself. 304 00:19:05,540 --> 00:19:06,540 Get over here. 305 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:08,700 Oh, Lord. 306 00:19:08,740 --> 00:19:09,740 I know. I know. 307 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,220 I needed this. 308 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Welcome in. Hi. 309 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:31,360 How are you? Good. How are you doing? 310 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Good. Good. 311 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,920 I'm just meeting a friend here to shop a little. 312 00:19:35,260 --> 00:19:38,680 If there's anything we can help you find, let us know. I will. Thank you. 313 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,480 Hi. 314 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,300 How's it going? Sorry I'm late. 315 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:43,700 I've never been here. 316 00:19:44,220 --> 00:19:45,220 This is so cute. 317 00:19:45,380 --> 00:19:47,920 What? Well, you look fresh and fabulous. 318 00:19:48,260 --> 00:19:49,260 Is everything okay? 319 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,540 Everything's good. I'm going to put this on my pile. 320 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,640 I'm so excited for this trip. We get to use our passports. We get to go on a 321 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,559 super yacht. 322 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:57,620 Like, can I make requests? 323 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,820 Well, it depends on what your requests are. 324 00:20:00,020 --> 00:20:01,020 Can I bring glam? 325 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:02,620 No. What? 326 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:06,760 I have glam in Monaco. I have glam in Saint -Tropez. I have glam everywhere I 327 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,280 go. You can't bring glam. Oh, my gosh. You're going to have to help me with my 328 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,280 makeup every day. 329 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Well, no. I'll have Whitney help you. Oh, what? She can do a sparkly eyeshadow 330 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,500 and a dark lip. Oh, no. I'll pass. I'll pass. 331 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,100 And then Angie can blow out your hair. 332 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:18,300 No, that's a hard pass. 333 00:20:18,970 --> 00:20:21,330 You don't trust her with your hair? I don't trust her with anything. 334 00:20:22,510 --> 00:20:25,650 Well, she's coming on the trip, and it's her three days. Oh, that'll be nice for 335 00:20:25,650 --> 00:20:28,430 Angie, because she's never been on a luxury trip like that or on a yacht. 336 00:20:30,410 --> 00:20:33,170 So it'll be cool. It'll be her first experience on a nice boat. 337 00:20:35,150 --> 00:20:39,570 I'm not going to haze Angie, much like you two keep hazing each other. 338 00:20:40,250 --> 00:20:44,310 You know, I am sick of her, like, her attacks. 339 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:48,950 I think she gets a little high off of it. I did not see that on her at all. To 340 00:20:48,950 --> 00:20:49,990 me, she looked like she did. 341 00:20:50,270 --> 00:20:52,070 Crying about what? Because she's a mean bitch? 342 00:20:54,150 --> 00:20:57,630 Like, is that why she's crying? Because she's like, I feel bad a little bit 343 00:20:57,630 --> 00:20:58,690 about being a mean bitch. 344 00:20:59,170 --> 00:21:01,630 Lisa, if she's a mean bitch, you're a mean bitch. 345 00:21:04,650 --> 00:21:07,670 Heather, I just want to know what you think I did wrong. Because in my 346 00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:12,150 in my opinion, Angie shouldn't have started by being nasty about my kid's 347 00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:17,020 You know, like, that's disgusting to me. I know that that was hurtful. But then 348 00:21:17,020 --> 00:21:20,440 she goes low and low and lower and lower. Like, hey, you want to call me? 349 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:25,820 here, I'm here. We're here. I'm seriously sick of her nasty, nasty digs. 350 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,560 She's always commenting on. I think she's sick of yours, too. I didn't dig 351 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:30,940 her. Are you kidding me? 352 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,960 I know. What you're saying that you hate about Angie is exactly what you did. 353 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,780 How did I go low? How did I go low? 354 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:39,640 How did I go low? 355 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:41,940 The soup man? 356 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:47,580 Who is the soup man? She just said I cheated on my husband. I'm like, I don't 357 00:21:47,580 --> 00:21:48,900 know. Why don't you worry about your soup man? 358 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,100 Worry about soup. 359 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Soup. 360 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Oh, we thought you said soup. 361 00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:58,620 I don't know what she's talking about. Like a guy from the soup kitchen. 362 00:21:59,780 --> 00:22:02,180 I was going through every time she brought me soup. 363 00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:07,720 Learning that soup man is actually soup man clears a lot of things up. First of 364 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:08,720 all, he sounds hotter. 365 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:12,440 Who's the soup man? Nobody. And why did she say I cheated on my husband? 366 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,400 There is no soup, man. 367 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,940 And there is no soup, man. She's just throwing the wall to see if it sticks. 368 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,960 There's a reason that, like, no one ever rides hard for you. And I think it's 369 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,660 because they've all been burned by you. And everyone at that table has a history 370 00:22:28,660 --> 00:22:31,460 with you. Okay. Where you have gone, though. Maybe I shouldn't go on the boat 371 00:22:31,460 --> 00:22:34,080 trip. No. Maybe I shouldn't go. But you have to acknowledge that we have come a 372 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,240 long way. But our history is dark. 373 00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:38,500 It is. 374 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,740 You know what? You should talk to Angie about it. She'd be more than willing and 375 00:22:42,740 --> 00:22:45,500 happy to talk to you about it. I have talked to her about it. 376 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,420 You know. You don't listen. You don't need to get upset. You. 377 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,440 I really did not think I was coming here from this today. Listen, what am I even 378 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,640 saying to you other than. 379 00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:58,500 I'm just as low. You have history. I'm just as low. Yeah. You cannot sit here 380 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:01,600 and expect me to let you diss her and say that she does all these horrible 381 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,840 things and not look at you and say you did it too. What you two are doing has 382 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,620 end point. Stop talking about me and I won't have anything to say about her. 383 00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:13,200 Don't count my money. I don't count yours. It's not that hard to count. I 384 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,039 count her money. 385 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,039 It would be really. 386 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,020 easy okay when you say something i could count her money it'd be really easy you 387 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:22,480 might as well count her money because you're not saying in a way that makes 388 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,760 cooler or kinder you are saying exactly why can she start it and then no one's 389 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,700 allowed to say anything back to her oh my gosh the nerve of her to say this 390 00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:36,210 right now it's like heather you're blind and deaf Because clearly you don't see 391 00:23:36,210 --> 00:23:39,350 all the times everybody's coming for me nonstop, and it started with you. 392 00:23:39,650 --> 00:23:44,590 Lisa, how can you say all I know of Heather is that she was the good time 393 00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:46,250 that flashed her boobs? 394 00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:50,250 Oh. I would have been ejected from school. I know. Keep coming. Who's next? 395 00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:51,569 Who's next? 396 00:23:51,570 --> 00:23:55,110 Like, you know how much I put up with with Heather, you know, and I'm glad I 397 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:57,350 could give your book a title. Like, this is bullshit. 398 00:23:58,410 --> 00:24:01,230 She doesn't want anyone to say anything back to her. She does it to Britney. You 399 00:24:01,230 --> 00:24:04,530 said so many nasty things back to her. I didn't say so many nasty things back to 400 00:24:04,530 --> 00:24:07,750 her. She called me and I'm like, thank you. Amen. Here, roll call. I'm here. 401 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:12,310 I'm not saying this to hurt you or to drudge you. I'm saying it so you can see 402 00:24:12,310 --> 00:24:17,510 that it's never going to stop unless we acknowledge it. And I say it to you. I 403 00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:20,490 want to get it off my chest, too. I can move forward. I don't think she can. 404 00:24:21,390 --> 00:24:22,390 She's not wrong. 405 00:24:22,670 --> 00:24:25,570 We all feel bullied a little bit by that stuff. 406 00:24:26,830 --> 00:24:27,830 You're a risky. 407 00:24:29,229 --> 00:24:31,930 I don't feel like I am, and I'm sick of being labeled that way. 408 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:35,630 I don't feel bad about it. I think she needs to take accountability. 409 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:40,310 And I told her, I'm like, I just want to win. You want to win something. I don't 410 00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:41,269 want to win. I'm done. 411 00:24:41,270 --> 00:24:44,630 You're both losing. I'm trying to move forward with you right now, and I'm 412 00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:48,930 hoping this trip will help bring us together. But, like, until you really 413 00:24:48,930 --> 00:24:52,010 it up or change, it's never going to go away. 414 00:25:14,350 --> 00:25:16,210 Can I get a decaf latte? 415 00:25:16,510 --> 00:25:19,410 Okay. And then, you know what? Let's do a steamer. Okay. 416 00:25:30,430 --> 00:25:31,430 Hey. 417 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:33,390 Hi. 418 00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:35,570 Can I hug you? 419 00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:36,770 Okay. 420 00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:38,910 Oh, thank you. 421 00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:40,970 Yeah. Come sit down. This is us. 422 00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:44,920 My reading with Terrence was literally, like, prophetic. 423 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,980 You feel disconnected from someone in your own family? My daughters. 424 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,880 Spend some time getting to know her all over again. 425 00:25:52,180 --> 00:25:56,480 Okay. It just made me realize that I need to take a step back in my romantic 426 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,520 relationship to focus on what's really, really important, which is, first and 427 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,700 foremost, my daughter. 428 00:26:03,940 --> 00:26:06,960 And it's giving me the courage to do that. 429 00:26:07,260 --> 00:26:08,800 Um, I got you a steamer. 430 00:26:09,260 --> 00:26:10,260 You get it? 431 00:26:10,540 --> 00:26:12,240 You don't know what I'm talking about? A steamer. 432 00:26:12,540 --> 00:26:15,980 Like when you were four, you threw that tantrum that you didn't get any coffee. 433 00:26:16,660 --> 00:26:20,740 But really, I used to buy you steamers, and that's what you called coffee. And 434 00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:22,640 you really don't remember that? No, I was four. 435 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,320 We were in Starbucks, and you were kicking and screaming. I'm not kidding 436 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,840 Screaming in the top of your lungs, I want my coffee. 437 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:35,700 And everyone was looking at me like, what kind of mom are you? You give your 438 00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:36,700 coffee? 439 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,110 And I was like, it's a steamer. It's a steamer. It's a steamer. It's a steamer. 440 00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:43,130 Anyway, that's funny. 441 00:26:48,330 --> 00:26:54,090 With my daughters, when I got divorced from their dad, I just desperately tried 442 00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:56,670 to create this perfect, happy family. 443 00:26:56,890 --> 00:26:58,350 So I got married again. 444 00:26:58,810 --> 00:27:02,310 But I was just constantly caught in this tug of war between... 445 00:27:03,150 --> 00:27:08,730 Husband, children. And I'm thinking, oh, I can finally get to my kids when I'm a 446 00:27:08,730 --> 00:27:14,050 good enough wife. And then eventually my kids moved in with their dad. And so I 447 00:27:14,050 --> 00:27:15,230 failed miserably. 448 00:27:16,590 --> 00:27:17,870 Thanks for meeting me. 449 00:27:18,250 --> 00:27:21,550 Yeah. Do you remember the last time we tried this? 450 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:27,470 No. I had like a 30 -minute break between jobs. I came over to your house, 451 00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:28,590 planned to meet up. 452 00:27:28,930 --> 00:27:31,510 Then Jared came at the same time. And then you guys. 453 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,600 Just started making out in front of me. 454 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,400 Didn't even glance at me. 455 00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:42,060 So I guess the difference here in this is that a man you were dating was there 456 00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:43,060 for the first one. 457 00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:46,600 So now that he's not here, you're giving me your full attention, which I 458 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:52,700 appreciate, but I want you to want to get to know me and to want to spend time 459 00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:58,540 with me over anyone, especially somebody that you're dating, not dating, who 460 00:27:58,540 --> 00:27:59,540 knows. 461 00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:11,550 I know. I don't even know why that happened. I really don't. I've been in 462 00:28:11,550 --> 00:28:17,810 habit of accusing men for so long because I have kids that I don't even 463 00:28:17,810 --> 00:28:18,810 see. 464 00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:24,010 You can't put that on us. You can't talk about how sad you are because you don't 465 00:28:24,010 --> 00:28:25,370 have kids who don't talk to you. I'm not. 466 00:28:26,030 --> 00:28:28,210 I'm trying to get to know you. Like, I'm trying. 467 00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:34,430 My mom was everything that you'd want in a mom. 468 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,720 so present in our lives. 469 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:43,900 Every field trip, every dance recital, every school talent show, she was 470 00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:45,900 there. And she was so much fun. 471 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:53,300 I was 12 when she got remarried, and it was like somebody flipped a switch 472 00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:57,160 in her brain to turn that person off completely. 473 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,920 And so to go from, I love my mom, she comes with me to everything. 474 00:29:02,590 --> 00:29:05,610 To be begging for her attention was so hard. 475 00:29:06,090 --> 00:29:11,690 Because I knew that she can be a loving mother who cares about her kids. I know 476 00:29:11,690 --> 00:29:12,690 it's in her. 477 00:29:12,930 --> 00:29:16,130 But I just think that it's important that you take accountability and realize 478 00:29:16,130 --> 00:29:17,270 that I wanted a mom. 479 00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:22,150 What kid is like, I don't really want my mom to raise me. 480 00:29:22,570 --> 00:29:25,110 I would really love to talk to my dad about periods. 481 00:29:26,010 --> 00:29:27,010 That's ideal. 482 00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:29,690 That's so sad. 483 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640 That's so sad, Olivia. I'm so sorry. 484 00:29:33,060 --> 00:29:35,380 I don't know. I don't know how to make it better. 485 00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:37,920 That's the truth. I don't know how to make it better. 486 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,380 I can't go back. 487 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:41,840 I know that. 488 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,760 But when I put myself in your shoes and I was like, I would never do that. 489 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,600 So why did you? 490 00:29:51,780 --> 00:29:52,820 I don't know, Liv. 491 00:29:56,380 --> 00:29:58,120 I feel like it's important for you. 492 00:29:58,730 --> 00:30:03,570 To figure out why you prioritize relationship with a man over me. 493 00:30:04,510 --> 00:30:08,570 So it doesn't happen again. Because that truly is my worst fear. 494 00:30:16,210 --> 00:30:20,250 It did kind of feel like it was me. Like I was the issue here. 495 00:30:21,290 --> 00:30:25,550 I'm so sorry. Of course it's not you. Of course it wasn't you. It was me. 496 00:30:28,940 --> 00:30:29,940 I'm so sorry. 497 00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:43,320 You're my precious baby that you know nothing about, that I really want to get 498 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,320 to know again. 499 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,020 I would love the opportunity if you'll let me. 500 00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:51,440 I just don't want to get hurt again. 501 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,360 I'm sorry. 502 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,520 First of all, are you driving? 503 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,100 I left the key in the car, too. Oh, my gosh. 504 00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:31,980 Is this your first set of wheels? This whole driving car thing has really 505 00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:36,240 evolved in recent years. You're doing amazing, sweetie. Here's a coffee for 506 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,120 Hi. 507 00:31:40,910 --> 00:31:44,470 So it's been a tough 24 hours. 508 00:31:44,810 --> 00:31:49,710 What's happened? Yesterday afternoon, my throat was getting sore. And so I went 509 00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:53,250 and grabbed the coldies. And I didn't even chew it. And I chipped a tooth on 510 00:31:53,250 --> 00:31:54,250 candy somehow. 511 00:31:55,470 --> 00:31:56,470 What tooth? 512 00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:57,770 This one right here. 513 00:31:58,570 --> 00:32:03,270 Oh, I can't even see that. Then I somehow, walking in my bathroom, kicked 514 00:32:03,270 --> 00:32:04,350 corner of my shower. 515 00:32:04,630 --> 00:32:07,410 And my toe and the top of my foot. Right after the chipped tooth? 516 00:32:07,690 --> 00:32:08,690 Yes. 517 00:32:09,330 --> 00:32:10,330 And the toe. 518 00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:11,810 Is purple. 519 00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:16,270 And you're wearing these shoes for a walk? Honestly, it's easier because my 520 00:32:16,270 --> 00:32:17,810 are conditioned to being in heels. 521 00:32:18,590 --> 00:32:19,590 So it's healthier. 522 00:32:21,610 --> 00:32:23,150 This is so beautiful. 523 00:32:23,510 --> 00:32:27,050 I mean. We're going to have snow for a couple more weeks probably. 524 00:32:27,450 --> 00:32:31,750 Lunch. That was a very pretty environment, but not such a pretty 525 00:32:32,170 --> 00:32:33,790 A garden party that quickly turned. 526 00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:37,630 Well, I went shopping with Lisa. And there's a part of me that felt like I 527 00:32:37,630 --> 00:32:39,110 wasn't getting through at all. 528 00:32:39,630 --> 00:32:44,990 And like, I love Lisa and I love our friendship and I want to defend her. But 529 00:32:44,990 --> 00:32:50,730 like, I also don't want to be a fool because I was not Lisa's friend for four 530 00:32:50,730 --> 00:32:55,370 years. Very recent friendship, you know, that we're developing. And so this is 531 00:32:55,370 --> 00:33:00,090 the first time I'm kind of seeing how she pulls you in and like kind of slings 532 00:33:00,090 --> 00:33:03,030 the mud. And like, I used to think she was truly fearless. 533 00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:06,770 But now I'm wondering if she were more fearless, she'd just say these things to 534 00:33:06,770 --> 00:33:09,770 our face and not drop them in other people's buckets. 535 00:33:10,110 --> 00:33:13,770 I mean, it feels like all the pieces are kind of falling into place. Lisa has a 536 00:33:13,770 --> 00:33:18,510 very specific move, and it is to dig up dark skeletons. 537 00:33:19,070 --> 00:33:20,170 She did it with Meredith. 538 00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:21,530 She did it with Whitney. 539 00:33:21,810 --> 00:33:22,930 She's doing it with Angie. 540 00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:27,530 She keeps repeating the pattern. I don't know why she does it, but she should 541 00:33:27,530 --> 00:33:31,290 have evolved by now. And it made me think, why did you let Lisa off the hook 542 00:33:31,290 --> 00:33:32,290 Whitney's party? 543 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:37,840 The thing is, when Lisa and I had our falling out a couple years ago, she did 544 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,500 profusely apologize to me for years. 545 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:41,840 And you know why? Because she was caught. 546 00:33:42,580 --> 00:33:45,160 She was caught red -handed. And she couldn't deflect. 547 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,440 She couldn't avoid. 548 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,960 She couldn't bob and weave. She was caught, so she owned it. 549 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:52,500 And I felt like, at Whitney's luncheon, she was caught. 550 00:33:52,820 --> 00:33:54,660 And I'm surprised she didn't just own it. 551 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,440 My view is, when somebody shows you who they are, you deal with them 552 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,740 accordingly. But what if she didn't? 553 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,820 I mean, Meredith, she did it. 554 00:34:04,540 --> 00:34:07,280 God love her. We've known this woman for years. 555 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,600 It tracks. 556 00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:12,860 You know, she's never going to say she did it and she's sorry. 557 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:16,360 But it's kind of what Angie was saying. You know, she's done it to everybody at 558 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,060 different times on that table. And it makes me doubt Lisa. And that's why I 559 00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:21,060 believe Angie. 560 00:34:25,179 --> 00:34:29,699 I mean, look, Heather, from my standpoint, I don't have a great track 561 00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:30,699 with Angie. 562 00:34:31,210 --> 00:34:35,310 So at this point, she said she didn't do it. I have to give her the benefit of 563 00:34:35,310 --> 00:34:38,090 the doubt until I have something coming to me that tells me otherwise. 564 00:34:39,170 --> 00:34:44,110 Look, from what Lisa has told me, I believe Lisa. Like, is everything that 565 00:34:44,110 --> 00:34:46,489 out of Angie's mouth just gospel here? 566 00:34:46,870 --> 00:34:51,610 What about the commentary on your Barbie scissor kit? Everybody is saying that 567 00:34:51,610 --> 00:34:55,010 perhaps Jennifer and Heather were in their room doing Barbie scissor kicks. 568 00:34:55,090 --> 00:34:56,710 Barbie scissor kicks. 569 00:34:57,170 --> 00:34:58,730 Was she telling the truth then? 570 00:35:01,070 --> 00:35:04,790 I don't want to be in a friendship with Lisa where I have to, like, keep her at 571 00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:10,370 arm's length or watch my back or wonder if she's only, like, not digging up dirt 572 00:35:10,370 --> 00:35:13,910 on me because she's not mad at me right now. Like, I just don't want to be in a 573 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:16,190 friendship like that. Well, no one should be digging up dirt on their 574 00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:19,690 Anyone who's doing that is not a friend. 575 00:35:20,230 --> 00:35:23,850 I believe that Lisa's done that, though, and I believe that she did that to you. 576 00:35:25,129 --> 00:35:27,850 It's going to keep happening if we just keep looking the other way, and we're 577 00:35:27,850 --> 00:35:30,170 going to have resentments. I don't want to be in a friendship like that. I 578 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:33,830 really don't. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that Meredith would even 579 00:35:33,830 --> 00:35:36,970 this is something that we can just overlook with, like, she may have, she 580 00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:43,210 not have, but, you know, girls will be girls. I like how fucked up we all are. 581 00:35:43,210 --> 00:35:47,270 just want us to be able to acknowledge when we are fucked up and move on. 582 00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:50,370 A lot of us have been able to say we're sorry. 583 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,560 But I would love for Lisa to say she's sorry for a few things too. 584 00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:14,260 Can we just walk in? 585 00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:15,620 Hi. 586 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,100 Yes, please walk in. How are you? 587 00:36:18,629 --> 00:36:19,629 Hi, gorgeous. 588 00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:23,490 I was actually married, just opening up a bottle of wine that you gave me. 589 00:36:24,050 --> 00:36:27,570 All right, so one of the most important things about this trip is the preference 590 00:36:27,570 --> 00:36:30,910 sheet. And we're leaving in a couple days, and you still haven't done yours. 591 00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:32,930 And I think you're going to regret it if you don't. 592 00:36:33,210 --> 00:36:37,690 I am so excited to go on a super yacht. We all got to fill out a preference 593 00:36:37,690 --> 00:36:41,250 sheet, which is everything that you want on the trip so that you can be weighted 594 00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:45,350 on hand and foot. It's like next level super bougie. 595 00:36:45,930 --> 00:36:48,510 Please tell us what your ideal breakfast looks like while on this upcoming 596 00:36:48,510 --> 00:36:54,750 charter. Wake up. Huevos rancheros, overcooked bacon, eggs benedict, and 597 00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:56,990 donuts. I'm not really into breakfast. 598 00:36:57,210 --> 00:36:59,150 Go to lunch. Let's move on. Go to lunch. 599 00:36:59,630 --> 00:37:01,410 Ideal lunch is drunk food. 600 00:37:01,670 --> 00:37:04,090 I want dark tanning oil on the boat. 601 00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:06,850 I'm going to say must -have glitter spray. 602 00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:11,970 This is going to be an epic trip. Good. But the bougiest one out of all of us 603 00:37:11,970 --> 00:37:13,190 hasn't even done hers yet. 604 00:37:13,530 --> 00:37:15,370 Which is an even bougier move. 605 00:37:15,690 --> 00:37:19,290 If you don't put it on there, they're not going to source it. Okay. So you've 606 00:37:19,290 --> 00:37:20,290 got to get that thing going. 607 00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:24,590 Mary, you do like things a certain way. Yeah, you have try the strongest 608 00:37:24,590 --> 00:37:27,290 preferences. Thank you for calling Trixie Motel. 609 00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:29,630 Do you guys have 2003 Dom Perignon? 610 00:37:31,450 --> 00:37:32,490 Uh, no. 611 00:37:33,890 --> 00:37:36,490 Your beverages? Just put 2003 Dom Perignon. 612 00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:39,270 Okay. Put parfait for breakfast. 613 00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:41,830 Parfait, like yogurt parfait? Yogurt parfait. 614 00:37:42,430 --> 00:37:44,070 Put 2003 Dom Perignon. 615 00:37:44,370 --> 00:37:47,070 My yacht vibe is pure luxury. 616 00:37:47,590 --> 00:37:48,590 Lots of blueberries. 617 00:37:48,850 --> 00:37:51,310 Okay. Egyptian cotton sheets. Do you want organic? 618 00:37:51,830 --> 00:37:54,190 Egyptian cotton sheets. Organic what? Blueberries. 619 00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:55,630 Yes. 620 00:37:55,930 --> 00:37:58,190 Put 2003 Dom Perignon. 621 00:37:58,630 --> 00:38:03,430 I have been on a yacht before. I love it. It's something about a boat for me. 622 00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:06,610 just feels like at night, it feels like it's just rocking you to sleep. Maybe 623 00:38:06,610 --> 00:38:10,130 because I was never rocked to sleep, so I just get it from the boat. 624 00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:12,920 Do you like coffee or tea? 625 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,360 Always tea. 626 00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaking of tea, have you guys seen all the tea on Bronwyn floating around on 627 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,160 the Internet? 628 00:38:22,060 --> 00:38:23,480 Have you seen what's out there, Mary? 629 00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:30,340 No. Like, just today, the first thing I saw was Bronwyn allegations of identity 630 00:38:30,340 --> 00:38:31,340 theft. 631 00:38:31,580 --> 00:38:32,580 Like, 632 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,920 it's crazy, right? When I read the headlines, I was gagged. 633 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,440 I've tried to choose friends who are not part of the Utah Crime Circle, but 634 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,160 obviously my picker's wrong. 635 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,920 Has anyone talked to Bronwyn? I haven't heard from her. 636 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,060 Hey, Bronwyn. Hi. 637 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,440 How you doing, sweetheart? 638 00:39:01,380 --> 00:39:02,760 Got you a drink that you like? 639 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:05,840 Thank you. Loaded myself one Diet Coke, so I'm good to go. 640 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,380 Okay, so what are we going to do? 641 00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:12,960 I know you saw my messages, these ridiculous headlines. 642 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,400 Yep. 643 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,260 There's two separate things happening here. 644 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,800 There are mistakes I made in college. We're talking 20 years ago. I think I 645 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,100 an eviction notice after I left BYU and I had to pay it later. 646 00:39:27,580 --> 00:39:29,020 And then they're saying. 647 00:39:29,530 --> 00:39:34,530 that I allegedly committed crimes current day, in the last year or so, 648 00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:39,130 theft, grand theft, fraud, all of those are things listed under that penal code. 649 00:39:39,310 --> 00:39:44,730 What actually happened was almost 10 years ago, nothing recent, but it's been 650 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:49,950 case that was dismissed and then later sealed, and I really legally can't talk 651 00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:51,690 about what my involvement is in that. 652 00:39:52,610 --> 00:39:56,290 You know this lying bulls**t online, in the press. 653 00:39:58,339 --> 00:40:00,940 affects all of us, personally and professionally. 654 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,440 I know it's going to cause a problem for you at work, so I'm sorry about that, 655 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,280 because I know it's got to be a concern for you. Of course it is. 656 00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:12,600 I know that my name next to any of these words reflects poorly on you, and you 657 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,500 need to be seen as someone who is trustworthy and beyond reproach when it 658 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:19,880 to anything about... I mean, I know, I know. 659 00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:25,120 Separate from that, I saw your text that I should think about not going on this 660 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,590 trip. It's unclear to me why you want to go spend time with these people, why 661 00:40:29,590 --> 00:40:34,230 you want to spend time with Lisa, why you want to fly 18 hours to be in the 662 00:40:34,230 --> 00:40:39,370 room with someone that continually lies about you, lies about me, lied about 663 00:40:39,370 --> 00:40:40,370 Gwen. 664 00:40:40,590 --> 00:40:42,330 I struggle to understand why you do that. 665 00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:45,050 I wouldn't piss on Lisa if her brain was on fire. 666 00:40:48,770 --> 00:40:52,610 Based on our past, there is a heavy possibility that she started these 667 00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:56,600 There's a heavy possibility if she didn't start them, she's perpetuating 668 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:58,400 I know that. 669 00:40:58,820 --> 00:41:02,760 I wanted to be done fighting with Lisa. And the idea that she could have been 670 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,220 doing this concurrent to apologizing to me and acting like she wants to move 671 00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:09,360 forward is pretty devious. 672 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,480 I would not go. 673 00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:13,800 What are you worried about? 674 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,640 A tiger can't change its stripes. 675 00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:18,120 She's not going to change. 676 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,860 What I said to you a year ago, I don't know why you get in the gutter with her. 677 00:41:23,310 --> 00:41:27,750 Because that's what it is. You just get down in the gutter and muck around with 678 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:28,750 slime. 679 00:41:29,350 --> 00:41:32,210 If you decide to go, I got it. 680 00:41:33,490 --> 00:41:36,270 You're a big girl, grown woman, I understand. 681 00:41:37,110 --> 00:41:39,970 But don't come home complaining that you and Lisa got into a fight. 682 00:41:41,230 --> 00:41:42,550 Because I assume it's going to happen. 683 00:41:43,770 --> 00:41:45,330 You're setting yourself up for that. 684 00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:47,050 Okay. 685 00:41:47,310 --> 00:41:48,310 It's on you. 686 00:41:49,450 --> 00:41:50,450 It's really on you. 687 00:41:57,330 --> 00:42:00,170 Next time on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. 688 00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:05,130 Ladies, we're going to get you nice and wet and get you in the water. The other 689 00:42:05,130 --> 00:42:06,109 way around. 690 00:42:06,110 --> 00:42:07,150 Yeah, the other way around. 691 00:42:10,490 --> 00:42:12,410 I'm starting to get a little seasick. 692 00:42:14,150 --> 00:42:15,170 Angie, are you okay? 693 00:42:15,610 --> 00:42:16,610 Angie's not okay. 694 00:42:17,850 --> 00:42:22,930 Every time Lisa's mad at someone, information leaks about them. Angie, me, 695 00:42:23,330 --> 00:42:24,870 Bronwyn, Mary. 696 00:42:26,420 --> 00:42:30,420 Okay, I agree. I think that you're the source of all the dirt. Are you accusing 697 00:42:30,420 --> 00:42:31,640 me? Yes. 698 00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:33,300 Me? 699 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,000 I've never done anything to them. 700 00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:39,540 They're literally killing each other.